Ghislaine Maxwell‘s testimony to the DOJ contained some details about Jeffrey Epstein but nothing incriminating any of the famous men linked to the late billionaire pedophile.
In the hundreds of pages of records, published Friday, Maxwell – who is serving a 20-year prison sentence for recruiting young girls for Epstein to sexually abuse – provided no incriminating information on high-profile individuals including Donald Trump.
However, she did reveal some details of her relationship to Epstein, including that the transactional nature of their relationship continued long after their romantic one did.
As late as 2008 or 2009, Maxwell said that Epstein paid her around $250,000 a year, until he went to jail.
‘He had never stopped paying me,’ she admitted.
Maxwell told the Department of Justice she knew her romantic and sexual relationship with Jeffrey Epstein was over after he refused to spend time with her during the attacks on the World Trade Center on September 11, 2001.
At one point, she discusses when her relationship – often described as the billionaire pedophile’s boyfriend, madam and right-hand woman – started to go south.
‘By 1999 our relationship had foundered. We stopped having sexual relations in 1999, not full sex,’ she said.
Ghislaine Maxwell ‘s testimony to the DOJ contained some details about Jeffrey Epstein but nothing incriminating any of the famous men linked to the late billionaire pedophile
In the hundreds of pages of records, published Friday, Maxwell – who is serving a 20-year prison sentence for recruiting young girls for Epstein to sexually abuse – provided no incriminating information on high-profile individuals including Donald Trump
Maxwell noted that they sometimes would ‘share a bedroom’ but Epstein had another girlfriend at this point.
However, it took Epstein refusing to visit her after the attacks on New York City to make her understand it was over.
She definitively knew it was over after 9/11 because ‘he wouldn’t see me at all’ on the day of terror attacks despite only being five blocks away.
‘And then I knew, as anyone did at that time, if you’re not going to be there for someone in 9/11, you’re never going to be there.’
Maxwell also admitted to Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche that, while the young women constantly in Jeffrey Epstein’s presence was ‘not normal,’ she said they’d have left if he ‘had been creepy.’
Maxwell spent multiple days testifying to Blanche about the deceased billionaire pedophile.
At one point, Blanche challenged Maxwell: Did he seem to you to be a sexual deviant? Young women were everywhere. Multiple massages on some days. Flew with the women to the island, to New York, Paris. There’s always women, they’re always rubbing him, giving him massages. I think it would be an understatement to say that that’s not normal?’
Maxwell simply replied: ‘I agree.’
She did reveal some details of her relationship to Epstein, including that the transactional nature of their relationship continued long after their romantic one did
However, she challenged the idea that the young women were there purely for sex. Saying that Epstein preferred them, provided they were of legal age, because they were ‘invigorating’ and would turn him on to new music.
‘If he had been creepy… I don’t think the women would have been there,’ Maxwell claimed.
Maxwell also denied allegations made by the late Virginia Giuffre that she was paid to be in a relationship with Prince Andrew and that she had sex in Maxwell’s home.
Giuffre died by suicide earlier in 2025.
Maxwell referred to the allegations as ‘rubbish,’ and said that she wasn’t in London when Giuffre claimed this happened.
She said she was out of town for her mother’s 80th birthday at the time.
Maxwell also claimed that Giuffre’s allegations that they had sex in Maxwell’s bathroom were physically impossible because her home is only 900 square feet.
Prince Andrew settled a lawsuit with Giuffre in 2022 for an undisclosed amount.
Maxwell also denied allegations made by the late Virginia Giuffre that she was paid to be in a relationship with Prince Andrew and that she had sex in Maxwell’s home
As late as 2008 or 2009, Maxwell said that Epstein paid her around $250,000 a year, until he went to jail
Furthermore, Maxwell never had any inkling that she should introduce Prince Andrew to Epstein.
‘I couldn’t imagine them being friends. Two chalk and cheeses would never — I mean, for real, there’s nothing there to connect them,’ she said, using a British expression.
The attorney for several of Jeffrey Epstein’s victims called the release of the Ghislaine Maxwell transcripts ‘probably about the best we could get’ from the billionaire pedophile’s right-hand woman.
James Marsh, who represented Maria Farmer and others, called the release ‘a good thing but told CNN he’s been ‘trying to lower expectations about this transcript and the so-called DOJ records for weeks now.’
He noted that he and the victims had heard similar answers from Maxwell ‘over decades.’
Marsh said that Maxwell ‘has a really good recall of his finances, the deals that he was involved in, intricate details of the people that he knew.’
However, he called her answers to the most hot button accusations and topics related to Epstein, she becomes ‘a little bit more vague and very studied in her responses.’
Ultimately, he understands why Maxwell testified that way, as she’s appealing her conviction and is ‘sort of damned if she does and damned if she doesn’t.’
Maxwell provided no incriminating information on high-profile individuals including Donald Trump
The attorney for several of Jeffrey Epstein’s victims called the release of the Ghislaine Maxwell transcripts ‘probably about the best we could get’ from the billionaire pedophile’s right-hand woman
‘If she tells the full truth, everything she absolutely knows about Jeffrey Epstein, the public is not going to view her in good light. And certainly she’s got these cases on appeal. She’s trying to get a commutation, I’m sure. She’s trying to get a reduction in her sentence or an outright pardon,’ Marsh said.
‘So this was probably about the best we could get for her under those circumstances.’
Maxwell answered questions regarding Epstein’s acquaintanceships with Bill Clinton, Donald Trump, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., Prince Andrew, Elon Musk and others, but denied she ever saw anything wrong.
‘If I didn’t make it clear, I will reiterate it. I never, ever saw any man doing something inappropriate with a woman of any age. I never saw inappropriate habits,’ she said.
‘Now, somebody’s inappropriate and mine may be different, but – we’re not talking about anything that resembles the accusations that we’ve discussed here. So that would be a flat no to any man.’
Of Trump, she said: ‘The president was never inappropriate with anybody. In the times I was with him, he was a gentleman in all respects,’ insisted the criminal who’s likely angling for a presidential pardon.
She also denied the existence of a so-called ‘client list’ and insisted Bill Clinton had never visited Epstein’s ‘pedophile island’.
But, she did share revealing details about her own relationship with Epstein including details of his erectile dysfunction and an issue with her own sexual function which she claims hampered the sex life between the two pedophiles.
She briefly mentioned having been on a dinosaur bone hunting expedition with Epstein and Robert F. Kennedy Jr
Maxwell denied having any relationship with Andrew Cuomo or any of his family members
The release of the hours-long interview transcripts comes the same day that the Justice Department handed over thousands of pages of documents related to the late sex offender to Congress.
In the interview, on July 24 and 25, Maxwell told Blanche she does not believe Epstein killed himself in his Manhattan jail cell in August 2019 – but suggested she agrees with the theory that he had been murdered.
‘I do not believe he died by suicide, no,’ she said. ‘If it is indeed murder, I believe it was an internal situation.’
She said she did not know who killed him but believes it was likely another inmate, flying in the face of claims his death was part of a conspiracy to prevent any blackmail.
‘In prison, where I am, they will kill you or they will pay – somebody can pay a prisoner to kill you for $25 worth of commissary,’ she said.
‘That’s about the going rate for a hit with a lock today.
Maxwell has previously stated that she believes her former associate was murdered.
She also revealed she has no knowledge of a so-called ‘client list’ of high-profile individuals Epstein had damaging information on – which he could then use to blackmail them.
Deputy AG Todd Blanche pressed Maxwell on what was described as ‘creepy’ behavior from Epstein
Ghislaine Maxwell said that her father Robert (pictured in 1984) never met Jeffrey Epstein
‘There is no list,’ Maxwell insisted to Blanche in her nine hours of interviews last month.
‘The genesis of that story, I can actually trace for you from its absolute inception.’
The convicted sex offender insisted: ‘This is one man. He’s not some… they’ve made him into this. He’s not that interesting. He’s a disgusting guy who did terrible things to young kids.’
In her July sit-down, Maxwell told investigators she may have first met Trump in 1990 through her late father Robert Maxwell, who ‘liked him very much’ and was fond of his first wife Ivana Trump because of her Czech background.
When pressed about allegations she recruited a Mar-a-Lago employee to meet Epstein, Maxwell claimed she couldn’t remember but admitted it was ‘not impossible’ since she frequently approached spa workers.
Maxwell’s testimony acknowledges that her father, Robert Maxwell, had a background in intelligence during World War II as a British officer, and she believes he continued to help people in intelligence contexts, though he was not formally employed by an agency.
She insists her father and Epstein never met.
Maxwell is currently serving 20 years behind bars for her 2021 conviction on sex trafficking charges related to helping Epstein abuse teenage girls, though she has filed an appeal to the Supreme Court.
President Donald Trump told reporters in the Oval Office on Friday, August 22 that there are ‘innocent’ people in the Epstein files
Her lawyers claim Maxwell was covered under a 2007 plea deal that Epstein reached in his Florida sex offender case.
Blanche interviewed Maxwell on July 24 and 25 for a combined nine hours at the U.S. Attorney’s Office in Tallahassee, Florida.
At the time of the interviews she was serving her sentence at the low-security Federal Correctional Institution, Tallahassee. Just days after her sit-down, Maxwell was transferred to minimum-security Federal Prison Camp Bryan in Texas.
While Maxwell made a lot of important revelations about her longtime boyfriend and associate that could help shed light on the sex trafficking ring, she also divulged some highly personal information.
For example, Maxwell claimed she rarely had sex with Epstein because he suffered from a heart condition ‘which meant that he didn’t have intercourse a lot’.
She added that it ‘suited her fine’ because she also had a medical condition that also ‘precludes me [from] having a lot of intercourse’.
Throughout the interview, Maxwell tried to paint herself as somewhat subservient to Epstein – a romantic victim who later learned her long-term partner didn’t love her.
She told the DOJ how she met Epstein in 1991 when she was going through a ‘bad break-up’ with her long-term boyfriend.
She was visiting New York and her friend offered to set her up on a date.
‘He’s been dating my sister. You’ll love him. He’s looking for a wife,’ she recalled her friend saying.
Maxwell lamented that she was ‘edging towards 30’ at the time.
‘I don’t need to tell you guys. That’s a very important moment for a girl to, like, think about important things,’ she said.
She met Epstein for the first time at his Manhattan offices.
The ‘most memorable’ thing about that meeting was that Epstein had a giant ketchup stain on his tie, she recalled.
Maxwell found Epstein ‘very engaging and that was that’.
They became friends, had a one-night stand in 1992 and then didn’t sleep together again for nine months, she said.
After that they got into a years-long relationship.
During the hours-long interviews, Maxwell was also asked about several high-profile individuals and their potential connections to both her and Epstein.
She claimed that Prince Andrew often stayed at Epstein’s properties, describing him as someone who ‘relished Jeffrey’s hospitality’.
And she said that Epstein was ‘proud to flaunt royal connections’, making Andrew a useful social asset.
At one point, she was asked about disgraced former New York Governor Andrew Cuomo, who resigned in shame in 2021 amid a string of sexual harassment allegations.
Maxwell confirmed she knew Cuomo and his TV show host brother Chris Cuomo ‘socially’ but ‘only because he was married to Kerry [Kennedy]’.
When asked if Epstein knew Andrew, Chris Cuomo or Kerry Kennedy – or if they ever flew on Epstein’s plane or visited him in Palm Beach or on his Caribbean island – she said: ‘I don’t think so.’
Maxwell also confirmed she knew Trump’s former ‘First Buddy’ Elon Musk, having first met him at an exclusive birthday party for Google co-founder Sergey Brin.
She later met up with Musk at the Oscars.
While Epstein was not present for those meetings, Maxwell said she believes he and the Tesla CEO did know each other.
Maxwell described Victoria’s Secret founder Les Wexner as Jeffrey Epstein’s ‘closest friend’, from the time they first met.
During her two days with Blanche, she also addressed financial matters.
Maxwell disputed that the sum of over $30million Epstein sent to her was simply for personal gain, citing some funds tied to a helicopter she never owned.
She also admitted to having banking licenses and day-trading in the 1990s, where she made significant profits, including millions from Epstein-financed Palm Beach real estate flips.
